"Under H.R. 3200, a 'Health Insurance Exchange' would begin operation in 2013 and would offer private plans alongside a public option…H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens—whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently—participating in the Exchange."
CRS also notes that the bill has no provision for requiring those seeking coverage or services to provided proof of citizenship. So, absent some major amendments to the legislation and a credible, concrete enforcement effort in action, looks like the myth on this issue is the one being spread by Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et. al.
Note that the Congressional Research Service is a department of the Library of Congress, so a group of Right-Wing Wackos for sure.
Use this in your arguments with libs.
Only crazy people would come out against health care reform. Amnesty and pandering to illegals is all part of the attempt to create a voter base that is loyal to on political party. Both parties have been trying to secure this voter base.
ReplyDeleteThis will further drain our economy by having to provide something to a bunch of mostly non productive people that likely don't pay taxes. I think it is all an attempt to collapse the current economic system in America so they can bring about a revolution and create a new system of government. The government is going bankrupt and they don't have the money for health care reform and, according to the CBO, will increase our deficit, facts don't matter anyways.(Most of the negative facts about health care seem to come from the government itself, CBO etc. Must be Special interest.) How does this make sense? It makes sense when looked at from the above stated reasons. I don't see how these politicians can be this ignorant.
I don't want to say it, but reform is needed of our system. The status quo is grossly expensive from a purely gov't spending point of view and should be tweaked, reduced, or thrown out altogether (but changed nonethless). Obviously, nothing the Democrats are patching together right now is close to what I envision but we should remind ourselves not to get too entrenched with the SQ as to embrace it.
ReplyDeleteI have a question that I've continuously had to deal with and can offer limited answers. The National Health Service supposedly pays for less than what we spend yet provides more coverage to more of their population (we spend almost twice what England does on it's health care: http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14259044). The article cites the OECD on it's data (16% of our GDP on healthcare compared to 8% for England) so I'm not exactly sure how they compiled it. Assuming it's true, and that our Private methods is more expensive than a universal system, how should we react? Or should we just say, we should pay more for better clinical care for those that are able to get it?
(once again, I'll work on looking over this report from the OECD)
Stated like the true moderate. It may be more expensive here, but America has better health care than just about any where else in the world. I heard this news yesterday and did a quick google on the article. 4000 mothers in England give birth out side of hospitals dues to shortages. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209034/The-babies-born-hospital-corridors-Bed-shortage-forces-4-000-mothers-birth-lifts-offices-hospital-toilets.html
ReplyDeleteLook where we have government run health care. There are shortages.
I am not very familiar with the current health care system in America, but I know that the government option is not the way to go. A government run insurance company is a trojan horse for a complete government run health care system. Look at Obama's words that were posted earlier. http://robinsontalkingpoints.blogspot.com/2009/08/good-video-clearly-illustrating.html
There is a need for free market reform, not government options.
There are several other examples of shortages where there is government run health care. Health care is not a right. We already have free medical coverage--emergency rooms. Health care reform is about power and control for the political class.
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ReplyDelete"Assuming it's true, and that our Private methods is more expensive than a universal system, how should we react? Or should we just say, we should pay more for better clinical care for those that are able to get it?"
ReplyDeleteThe premise is that the government is supposed to provide one for health care. I don't know, do you agree with this premise? What is the cost of living in other areas of a centrally planned economy? Overall, it is more expensive.
Canada's health care system is about to implode. http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jbjzPEY0Y3bvRD335rGu_Z3KXoQw
Check out the CBO and heritage foundation websites for more information. Just about every government run endeavor is going bankrupt in America. Post Office, medicaid, medicare, social security, there are several other. The government running economic functions does not have a good track record. Health care would be cheaper if it were not for government regulations. Such as not allowing one to shop for insurance policies across state lines.
America is undergoing a fundamental transformation of our government and economy and society. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cqN4NIEtOY The current proposals for Health care reform is just another part of the overall transformation and should be viewed from that perspective. It is simply not about our health, even if most unthinking people that support it or the people bringing it about think it is. What will the end result be?