First two videos from Republican Health Care fighters Paul Ryan (Rep-Wisconsin) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwk1aHU-pms&feature=player_embedded
and House Minority Leader John Boehner (Ohio):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOdvn2dtM0A&feature=player_embedded
Both are good, Boehner's is more emotional and entertaining. Starts slow, but the middle is powerful.
Conservative writer Thomas Sowell:
Henry V (via Shakespeare):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAvmLDkAgAM
If you didn't understand what he said, here it is in writing (may be just as hard to understand)
Enter the KING
WESTMORELAND. O that we now had here
But one ten thousand of those men in England
KING. What's he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark'd to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
and finally Bluto:
Some good videos. Ryan sounds impressive. America is at a crossroads, and a war is going on between two competing views of life--one that leads to death and one that leads to life and prosperity--that have been battling since the dawn of human existence and the outcome will determine the direction that America and the world are both headed--while no reason to stop fighting or giving up hope, I believe it has already been determined in the long run--not permanently for the rest of human history. The struggle is far more epic than the one Henry V was rallying his troops to fight. We have to keep in mind that freedom is not the norm throughout human history. It is rare, a freak of nature, and an aberration--not normal. To be maintained, freedom requires great diligence on the part of a free people and an understanding of what made this possible. This is missing in our people.
ReplyDelete"This, rest assured, can be done. The American people are never permanently thwarted. President Obama's health care legislation can and will be repealed." http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/03/23/obamacare_can_be_repealed_104876.html
What is the will of the people? What determines this? What ideals are at the core of most people? I would say ones that go against the very nature of our being and that lead to death.
America's problem did not originate in the political realm nor is it the cause of the transformation of our Country and world--it is merely a symptom. It is far more fundamental than this. It goes all the way back as far as we can reduce it to its core. The problem is in the very soul or being of the people themselves. This move started long ago and originated in philosophy then filtered through academia, the education system, the culture of America, and to the political realm. Unless this is addressed and unless changes are made at this core, nothing substantive will change over the long run. This battle has been describe in many ways. The most simplistic is the battle between good and evil. These two ideals can be branched back out to their various subcategories to make it sound less simplistic for the more high minded and sophisticated, but it will always reduce back to good and evil life and death. That is the most fundamental question we all have to answer for ourselves--do we want to live? To be or not to be? We are the only beings that we know of that can choose to live or die or to act against the very nature of our being. Health care and the political realm is but a battle in this war and not the whole picture. To win this struggle, one must be aware of this fact and pick up their sword and shield and do battle in the bigger arena. So come on, lets have a go at it!
Here are some revealing audio clips that are a min long that show the true design of this health care reform. Straight from the horses mouth.
ReplyDeleteA slow transition to a single payer.
http://www.breitbart.tv/flashback-recap-obama-envisions-costly-and-lengthy-health-care-transition-to-single-payer/
To control the people.
http://www.breitbart.tv/shocking-audio-rep-dingell-says-obamacare-will-eventually-control-the-people
Go to the bottom to see the real reason that we are at this point.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_032410/content/01125109.guest.html
Wow, all of the videos that Jeff put down are scary.
ReplyDeleteHey you guys, we should do something about this. I hate just watching people fuck me and my country over. I wrote a letter to my congressmen and I put a new sign on my car. Other then that I dont really do anything.
Yeah, these people are statist and they make no bones about it. Their system has already been tried and it has proven to be a dismal failure.
ReplyDeleteI don't do much. All I can really do is try to influence the people I come in to contact on a daily basis when the opportunity presents itself; if I hear a lie or something I don't agree with in school, I challenge it; I vote when the time comes; I keep informed; I educate myself by reading books so I can refute lies and to understand how the system works; and I donate every now and then to the Heritage Foundation.
If people were more/properly educated and informed, we would not be in this situation. But this situation is the norm.
It's beyond a doubt that statism/socialism in America is their goal. The only question is whether the American people have woken up enough to understand the threat, or if enough people actually view this as a threat. The problem is that we may already be to the point where the majority view statism/socialsm as a good thing. Assuming an electorate with a brain in their head, that is the clear implication of Obama's election. Hopefully, it is more that much of the electorate are easily swayed cows, pursuaded by green grass and/or pain. I think the 2010 and 2012 elections are the last chance for a peaceful revolution against statism. I am more optimistic than Jeff about the chances of success, but I agree that the trend Jeff hypes is real and dangerous.
ReplyDeleteThe thing that scares me most is that the people who support socialism dont really have brains. I mean seriously. Its like the guards to John Gaults torture chamber. They did not want to make a decision. So Dagny shot them in the head.
ReplyDeleteReason does not work with these people. Only Pathos works with them and I think the pathos way of persuasion is only for the dumb. Pelosi was giving stories of poor sick people when she argued for the bill. Any moron should be able to push her whole argument to the side and see that she gave no concrete reason for the bill.
It really scares me that people can possibly think like this. They have no concience or something. I almost view them as evil. They kind of are evil since they bring down our standard of living. Its like they are stealing my wealth and smiling at my face while doing it.
There is a danger in assuming that a republican victory in 2010 and 2012 will mean the end of the march towards socialism/statism. The future economic conditions will be a major factor in determining the direction our country is going. I think we are so caught up in the moment that we fail to see the bigger picture. We are already at the point where the government provides medical care for about 29% of people in our country. The starting point for debate in health care is that of government involvement--I have yet to hear anything that would make cuts in and/or phase out medicare or the other programs. I heard several republicans state that they want to reform the health care system by working within the existing framework of medicare and such--one said that a good portion of people that are uninsured are eligible for medicare and all they had to do was sign up. The repbulicans will nit pick at the bill and make some victories against this bill, but in the end the government will be more involved in our health care system and in the free market in general.
ReplyDelete"The fact is that 29 percent of all American adults already depend on the government to provide their healthcare. And Uncle Sam provides healthcare for more than three-quarters of those over 65, whether they realize it or not, as the famous town-hall exchange between Republican Congressman Bob Inglis and one of his constituents in South Carolina illustrates. 'Keep your government hands off my Medicare,' demanded the man who couldn't be convinced that Medicare was already a government program."
"In all the debate over this legislation, this longer-term perspective is being lost. We need to grasp the political dynamic under which this legislation is being passed. It seeks to address genuine problems that were generated by the present system, which mixed private enterprise with a ghastly regulatory apparatus of government subsidies, licenses and controls, patents and monopolies, consumption controls, outright welfare, and fascistic impositions on every sector."
"The current system cries out for fixing. And how does the state propose to fix it? Never through more freedom, never by rolling back the real problem. Instead, it proposes more power. This has been the systematic trajectory during every presidential administration for many decades." http://mises.org/daily/4213
The politicians are getting people to bend over and grab their ankles and lube themselves up for insertion by using people's emotions against them or by sweet talking them into believing that government can provide for all their needs. The government is getting people to submit themselves to the government by pretending to provide all their needs and to take care of them. If people give up the responsibility of proving for their own health care and view it as a collective responsibility, then they deserve what happens in the metaphor above.
Good point ToeJamm - Pathos is just about their only weapon. Well, Pathos as the motivation, and race-baiting as the means to the end.
ReplyDeleteTrue Jeff. But I believe we are seeing a new brand of Republican emerging, a type of Republican that aligns closely with the Tea Parties, and that will have less fear in taking on those sacred cows. If we see another John McCain-type as the nominee in 2012, we are sunk. If we see more of a Sarah Palin, or Paul Ryan, or Jim Demint, then we will see that the Republican establishment has learned their lesson and we will see the revolution really begin to be implimented.
I'm hopeful for Gen Petraeus as well, but haven't heard anything from him yet on domestic policy, so can't say if I'm a fan yet or not. A Tea Party-aligned Republican is an absolute must for 2012.